tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post6827859565867727422..comments2024-03-03T22:08:00.302-08:00Comments on Front Range Rambler: A little time off...mike_hinterberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02817872376341966540noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-7245559617151780802011-11-02T16:17:28.037-07:002011-11-02T16:17:28.037-07:00Your explanation makes sense, but ... then again ....Your explanation makes sense, but ... then again ... you hit your head ;-)NBeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00035683527723872105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-91186925059231328672011-11-02T14:21:13.226-07:002011-11-02T14:21:13.226-07:00Bonus details for those that read the comments:
F...Bonus details for those that read the comments:<br /><br />Fortunately (I guess) we were sitting on the patio at Woody's Woodfired Pizza. I had barely eaten some salad before heading to the edge of the railing and getting rid of it. After that, I headed to the bathroom for ~15 minutes or so, until I felt better (including one false start, where I barely made it back into the bathroom in time).<br /><br />When I got back and settled in, apologized for being gross, I asked if anybody really noticed. Erik said, "Not really, except the guy at the end of the patio (now) that has his dogs tied up there made sort of a weird face!"<br /><br />If anything good came out of this, it was, apparently, a <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=cr93q_HVXb0C&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=pounds+of+blood+soaked+sponge+dog's+breakfast&source=bl&ots=NulWvFraKn&sig=O4Q4Ro1lRz99neS2J5u5hfMrV9c&hl=en&ei=DLSxTq66C6rjiAKdqLQU&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=pounds%20of%20blood%20soaked%20sponge%20dog's%20breakfast&f=false" rel="nofollow">dog's breakfast.</a>mike_hinterberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817872376341966540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-26078006433795566152011-11-02T14:15:10.009-07:002011-11-02T14:15:10.009-07:00Yeah, but the...well, the...did they consider...
...Yeah, but the...well, the...did they consider...<br /><br />Damn, you got me with science! Bulletproof!<br /><br />Thanks, seriously. The issue here, I think -- and I should have titled it better because I think it's interesting -- was that I got something stuck in my throat due to difficulty swallowing; tried drinking some water, which also got stuck; and then had a reaction. I wasn't otherwise nauseous or dizzy, so I was thinking that the whole thing was a complication of whiplash and sore neck muscles, plus swallowing something too fast, rather than a brain-related thing. <br /><br />Of course, the 2x-relative risk in the study doesn't segregate those.<br />Lastly, I think I had one concussion a few years ago, which had more noticeable cognitive effects, and had none of that (nor blacking out) this time. Conservatively, I did come back and decide *not* to go up to Cameron Pass.<br /><br />And, now I have a few days of hindsight, where everything has been OK -- perhaps it would have been better to get things checked out right away. But: we had guests! ;) <br /><br />Thanks, though, you (and Ean) are probably right in what should be done immediately out of precaution -- and probably what I would say to anyone else -- and certainly what I would do if it were a child, for example.mike_hinterberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817872376341966540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-87982142921192785832011-11-02T12:23:23.901-07:002011-11-02T12:23:23.901-07:00http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC173631...http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1736317/NBeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00035683527723872105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-78812060490560075742011-11-02T12:17:01.885-07:002011-11-02T12:17:01.885-07:00My bet ? DJ would tell you that ER SOP would be t...My bet ? DJ would tell you that ER SOP would be to get imaging. I'm slightly concerned about this one. I'd also bet that the throwing up would be considered pretty significant.NBeenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00035683527723872105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-12491199269027507002011-11-01T10:52:19.377-07:002011-11-01T10:52:19.377-07:00Haha...online medical advice...hmmmm.
Well, as ...Haha...online medical advice...hmmmm. <br /><br />Well, as I tell all my patients who ask me doctor-like advice...I am not a doctor so I highly recommend you get evaluated by a physician. <br /><br />BUT, from one friend to another...It's highly likely that if I had taken you into the Emergency Department the doc would have done a 2 minute assessment of feeling your spine and asking you a few questions, then cleared you of c-spine precautions. You would, most likely, have been told that if you continue to experience pain in your neck, numbness or tingling in your extremities, or it gets worse at all to get yourself evaluated by a doc immediately. <br /><br />There...does that help ;-)Ean McCrystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08278629208446313302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-59735051161164777392011-11-01T10:12:00.248-07:002011-11-01T10:12:00.248-07:00Thanks Ean -- it has gotten better every day, and ...Thanks Ean -- it has gotten better every day, and as far as I can tell, it was all soft-tissue whiplash injury. I could feel/massage everything that was sore, and it's getting better. I was concerned that I threw up from a concussion, but I hadn't been dizzy or anything -- then I read more about whiplash, and it made sense with how my neck was feeling (swallowing was more difficult, a bit of hoarseness). It's mostly better now, though.<br /><br />I otherwise don't have any other pain in my shoulders, etc. -- does it seem like my spine is probably OK, is there anything reasonable I could possibly make worse if I ignore it?*<br />(*My asking medical advice online, without seeing me -- is a GREAT IDEA! =)mike_hinterberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817872376341966540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-31632478656073110022011-11-01T09:59:01.937-07:002011-11-01T09:59:01.937-07:00Mike!! I'm concerned about your ice-slipping-...Mike!! I'm concerned about your ice-slipping-head-hitting incident. Are you still experiencing next pain? Hitting your head on the concrete like that is considered a high MOI (mechanism of injury). If any of my patients has a high MOI AND are experiencing any sort of neck pain I immediately take c-spine precautions and slap a c-collar around their neck, strap them to my backboard, and secure their head with head blocks. Then I take them to the ER where they usually get cleared by the ER doc and can take c-spine precautions off. BUT the possibility that you fractured your cervical vertebrae is possible...Ean McCrystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08278629208446313302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-46089975359209823532011-11-01T09:38:34.526-07:002011-11-01T09:38:34.526-07:00I was on other websites, but here's a good sum...I was on other websites, but here's a good summary:<br />http://macontracks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=242<br /><br /><br />Ugh, I hate even thinking about stretches!<br />The sitting stretch is good for meetings, school, etc. -- I push down on my knee and lean forward a bit, and can really feel it in the lower back as well.<br />Adductor stretches, too, at home.<br />Lastly, biking makes it feel better: that's more of the type of schedule I had a few years ago.<br /><br />The minor realization I had was the foam roller/tennis ball massage -- that's when I could actually feel that, indeed, the piriformis was tight. Try that out to see if that's causing your pain or not.<br /><br />Any other ideas you've had?<br /><br />Ironically (thankfully?), speedwork is actually not affected much at all. It doesn't make anything impossible, just seems like it slows me down over time.mike_hinterberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817872376341966540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-85755313187726722612011-11-01T09:21:58.130-07:002011-11-01T09:21:58.130-07:00Any stretches you recommend beyond the pigeon then...Any stretches you recommend beyond the pigeon then?GZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623054918799881730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-21570995985779457372011-11-01T09:03:58.260-07:002011-11-01T09:03:58.260-07:00Yeah, I saw you had a recurrence after the 100, an...Yeah, I saw you had a recurrence after the 100, and it's generally the same stuff we talked about last year. I've dug around in the psoas, as that's where most of the pain is (in that area), but reading about piriformis syndrome and sciatica in general, I started wondering if that were the root cause. If I think about it, and dig into that area, it is a bit sore there as well -- just wasn't a major concern.<br /><br />Anyway, stretching like pigeon pose is supposed to be good for both. I'm hoping an occasional focused massage, and a bit more stretch of the piriformis glutes, and some strengthening this winter, will help.<br /><br />I don't know about you, but sometimes my legs feel "tired" after long runs, but if I really think about it, my left (good) leg actually still feels pretty good. I've decided ignoring it completely isn't the best solution: there's pain (e.g. scraped knee from falling) that you can just "get over," but nerve pain absolutely leads to muscle weakness.mike_hinterberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02817872376341966540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-593777137946937666.post-14795520364243487092011-11-01T05:26:55.460-07:002011-11-01T05:26:55.460-07:00Ouch. Sorry to hear about the konk. Sounds like ...Ouch. Sorry to hear about the konk. Sounds like a minor concussion to me. <br /><br />Interesting on the leg imbalance. Groin area, eh? I seem to be battling a similar thing but I have concluded psoas over piriformis. I'd suggest we'd compare notes but I imagine that Brownie would get way too much delight out of that.GZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12623054918799881730noreply@blogger.com